tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post4045258596042752984..comments2023-07-02T07:26:45.065-07:00Comments on Talking about Weaving: FREEING THE CREATIVE SPIRIT?Peg in South Carolinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07886923838871937466noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post-4409531947253827852009-01-19T06:32:00.000-08:002009-01-19T06:32:00.000-08:00Thanks Renee. I especially liked your point about...Thanks Renee. I especially liked your point about needing tools at different places in the journey. Very important to remember!Peg in South Carolinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07886923838871937466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post-44734059603620254652009-01-17T18:07:00.000-08:002009-01-17T18:07:00.000-08:00Thanks for your comment on my blog Peg, funny that...Thanks for your comment on my blog Peg, funny that ours were both sort of on the creative process. I was intrigued by your post. To me books on creativity are tools for your toolbox. You take the tools you can use and leave the rest. You won't always need the same tools at different times in your life either as I am sure many folks know. I had a totally different impression from Cameron's Artist Way. Creativity is not one of those gifts that you either have been blessed with or not. It, like art, is learned, and yes, requires discipline. I enjoyed the different points of view on the comments. Thanks for your post!R. Delighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02635194775114327666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post-5744195294801585282009-01-17T06:57:00.000-08:002009-01-17T06:57:00.000-08:00Jane, thank you for sharing this. It sounds like...Jane, thank you for sharing this. It sounds like you had a wonderful education. I think the distinction between trendy and timeless is very important. Even in clothing, I have not been interested particularly in the trendy. I grew up with the notion that you bought clothes to last virtually forever. I have a jacket I made in a genuine Harrisville tweed 40 years ago. It was my first tailoring experience and i chose the fabric because it would hide mistakes. I am still wearing it and it shows absolutely no signs of wear. I have grown to truly love it and I still get compliments on it, even here in South Carolina!Peg in South Carolinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07886923838871937466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post-70490468845675944802009-01-16T07:44:00.000-08:002009-01-16T07:44:00.000-08:00Good morning Miss Peg. Another thought provoking p...Good morning Miss Peg. Another thought provoking post. <BR/><BR/>When I was 16, I was accepted into a specialized school for Art and Design. My then current art teacher and mentor, sat me down before I went "off to the big city" and passed on some very good words of wisdom that I have held in my heart ever since:<BR/><BR/>"Don't allow the Bohemian atmosphere to cause you to stray from your own path. There is no self respecting, accomplished artist in the world who does not have self discipline. <BR/><BR/>In learning technique, and learning it properly, you are then freed to expand and improvise with the knowledge of *what* you are doing and *why.*"<BR/><BR/>He was so correct. This man made me sit and paint color/value/hue/shade/tint chart after chart; draw endless life drawings; paint endless water colors and oil paintings -- all while the other students in his classes worked on "paint a tree" assignments. I asked him why I had to to do all of these other things, and his reply was "You're an artist -- they aren't. You need to have a strong scaffolding upon which you can build your future work."<BR/><BR/>Again -- he was right. Color theory is second nature to me. Design is second nature. The Golden Mean is second nature. All of which free me to concentrate on all of the other parts of being a Creative. <BR/><BR/>The limits he set for me, eventually allowed me incredible freedom as an artist. And the self discipline? He was so right. . . <BR/><BR/>I learned to create for myself, and not for what is trendy or stylish. Good work will sell itself no matter what fashion is dictating at the time. Trendy will pass -- but timeless goes on forever. And ya don't get timeless without technique, and ya don't master technique without self discipline.<BR/><BR/>Great topic!!! <BR/><BR/>Weave on, Miss Peg!!<BR/>JaneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post-21019627630941199972009-01-16T07:18:00.000-08:002009-01-16T07:18:00.000-08:00Lynne and Dorothy, thank you so much for your comm...Lynne and Dorothy, thank you so much for your comments. They are well thought out and I appreciate them.Peg in South Carolinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07886923838871937466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post-84709456646845218542009-01-15T14:52:00.000-08:002009-01-15T14:52:00.000-08:00This post raises so many different lines of though...This post raises so many different lines of thought.<BR/><BR/>One is that my sister who has good creative skills, but not the imagination I have, really enjoyed doing a "painting by numbers" recently. It enabled her to do a painting she was pleased with, which she'd not have managed without the kit. She's done some very nice cross stitch kits in the past, I have one she did and treasure it. She can do lovely work within that constrained kit system.<BR/><BR/>Another is that a lot of the design process taught on formal art courses is about enabling people who go into various industries to keep churning out new stuff, not necessarily about achieving high standards. People of a range of ability can learn a process to use and then produce something.<BR/><BR/>I think all great artists have worked within constraints - the really talented setting their own margins, maybe where no-one else has before. Picasso for example, had his own kind or rules. Even Jackson Pollock had some rules. (I'm one of those odd people that sees rhythm and harmony and images in Jackson Pollock's work.)<BR/><BR/>I was interested to find some review comments on Geoff Colvin, sounds like he's a great motivator, and has a logical approach. But you only go so far without talent, hard work is overated. The significance of the subconscious is underated.<BR/><BR/>I think this comment is getting a bit long.. interesting subject!Dorothyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06488670649558382921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post-2193371472454315352009-01-15T13:52:00.000-08:002009-01-15T13:52:00.000-08:00I enjoy the rules, they set a standard from which ...I enjoy the rules, they set a standard from which to deviate. They establish a framework from which to hang the creative chaos. But maybe this thinking is a result of my architectural training.<BR/><BR/>Yet I still believe we need the total I will do as I please freedom to explore our art.<BR/><BR/>Everything in moderation.<BR/>It balances out in the end.<BR/><BR/>I'll have to find Colvin's book, thanks for the link.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post-68373790558370019172009-01-15T10:00:00.000-08:002009-01-15T10:00:00.000-08:00Janet, I cannot answer your question. Perhaps you...Janet, I cannot answer your question. Perhaps you might give it a try for a couple of weeks and see what you think? But for an honest test, you will have to be "well-behaved and dutiful" as you so charmingly put it! Or you could try to figure out how to deal with motivation problems? Or maybe you are just in a phase where you just have to keep putting one foot in front of the other even if you are not motivated?<BR/>Leigh, welcome back to blog-reading and thank you for your comments!Peg in South Carolinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07886923838871937466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post-63748641982171703682009-01-15T05:54:00.000-08:002009-01-15T05:54:00.000-08:00Gosh, I've not been able to do any blog reading fo...Gosh, I've not been able to do any blog reading for the past week or so and look at what all I've been missing! Very interesting series on the handspun shawl sampling, and this post was as well. Makes me wonder what ever happened to the old idea that an artist has to suffer to be truly great. <BR/><BR/>About 10 years ago, one of my stepsons had problems in school with spelling and grammar. It turned out that his teacher wasn't teaching them spelling and grammar in order not to stifle the children's "creativity." The shame of it is that most of those poor kids will struggle for the rest of their lives with poor writing skills because of that. Nothing is more discouraging to creativity than not having the necessary tools to fulfill the process.Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435811789823712254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post-83427122431213047782009-01-14T21:34:00.000-08:002009-01-14T21:34:00.000-08:00Interesting and timely, since a friend and I (both...Interesting and timely, since a friend and I (both artisans) just decided yesterday that we'd have a go at The Artist's Way. I'd always avoided back in the day when it seemed like such a faddish thing, then wound up buying the book a couple years ago but ever actually read it. <BR/><BR/>Now from your post and the following comments, I wonder if I should stay the course and stay away from TAW, since 1) I don't really have any trouble with creativity, just motivation, and 2) I am anything but well-behaved and dutiful when it comes to homework or other chores.Janethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09506014565625306396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post-11995951119251746912009-01-14T17:27:00.000-08:002009-01-14T17:27:00.000-08:00Hi Cally,thank you for posting. I think you are ...Hi Cally,thank you for posting. I think you are pretty much right about Cameron, though you certainly have to be a "good little girl and do your homework" with Cameron! But some of her books I find to be really quite good, "Letters to an Artist" (or something like that)), for example. Perhaps the non-marketing of the "creativity thing" in England is one reason there seem (to me at least) to be so many brilliantly creative people in the arts there. But I think the whole British approach is quite different from the typical American approach, and I've always admired it.Peg in South Carolinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07886923838871937466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3904270845559593827.post-30915248619530782192009-01-14T12:37:00.000-08:002009-01-14T12:37:00.000-08:00I'm not sure we have quite as much of the marketin...I'm not sure we have quite as much of the marketing of the 'creativity thing' over here, although I have seen Julia Cameron's books. It seemed to me that she was aiming at the person who has always been well-behaved and good at school/work/household duties and is afraid that they don't have it in them to be creative at all. In other words, not to produce Mozarts and Michelangelos, but to undo some of the negative messages that people have heard which prevent them from putting in those hours of practice - what is the point if you believe you are fundamentally 'not creative'? But I may be missing the point. I often do!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com